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166) The problem is so pervasive in women that it is difficult to avoid. Realistically, you will not meet a woman who is not like this, even if you spend an extended amount of time searching. A man can and should be as assertive as possible with any woman he is with. That being said, women are an aggressive pain in the ass and it takes a large amount of energy to do this....it's a battle of wills. The closer a woman gets to you, the more intense that battle becomes. But, that's not the worst part....nonono. The worst part is the woman will decompensate, no matter what you do. Eventually, she will abandon you or force you to eject her from your life. That is unavoidable if you want to prevent becoming her abused pet dog. The situation is made much worse because of state interference. Quite literally, you no longer have this right if you dare to get married or she gets pregnant. If you or her decides to leave, the state will punish you severely. All women use this situation to really ramp up the abuse. Most, eventually leave so that the state can whip their dog even more.

This is a very difficult situation to deal with, women en masse deciding to be so toxic. If you play your cards right, you can get many of your needs met while, at the same time, forcing women to accept the consequences of their inappropriate behavior. However, you cannot have what is most important in life.....a permanent monogamous relationship and family with a good woman. That is simply unavailable here, no matter what you do.

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167) My whole point in posting this research is to show that, no, seeking after money is NOT an effective means of getting women and sex. What's going on here is two-fold. First, women are choosing most sexual partners at random with a small percentage of women (gold diggers) choosing a man based on money (only lots of money will do) but as a means of exploitation and have having no intention of doing anything but burning the relationship to get their hands on that money. Second, most women are lying about the randomness thing. They list a whole bunch of attributes (including income) that they want in a man. When they randomly reject you, they bring up lack in any of these attributes, as the reason and the very next day are with someone who has none of the attributes on that list. Hypocrisy. Income (height is another one) is a favourite because women list qualifications that only a tiny fraction of men meet. It's a handy way to reject you. However, it's total bullshit. The truth is, if she won't, her sister will or her friends will. That is the truth. Men can (and do) make themselves crazy trying to meet the qualifications of women. They work out obsessively, work 80 hour weeks, dress in insanely expensive clothes, get all manner of plastic surgery, and a lot of other goofy stuff to try and "measure up". It just doesn't work. It doesn't work because the idea of objective measures of a man is just a scam. Women are lying.

If you redid this study with other objective measures.....things like lean muscle mass, height, education, dominance, whatever, you would find the exact same thing. The only exceptions would be fame (if you are on TV, you are going to get laid) and deviance (criminal history, drugs, violence etc.)This has implications for a man's strategies for dealing with women. Work on THEM, work on the situation, don't waste time working on yourself.

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168) You need to understand that women in this country are completely socially inept and have stopped all relationship starting behavior. That leaves the field wide open for you (a woman who knows what she is doing) with little to no competition. See a guy you like? Look at him and smile as an invitation to approach. Likely, it is quite rare for him to get signals from women, no matter who he is, what he looks like or anything else about him. He may be surrounded by women who want him but NONE of them will invite him to approach. You can swoop right in and pluck him out of the crowd easy. The downside to this is he has gone so long without this happening that he might not recognize your invitation. Just be firm and repeat it several times. Eventually, he'll come on over. Talk lightly and steer the conversation to mutual interests and then mention you might want to do one of those together. Give him your phone number and bam; you have a date with a guy you are highly attracted to. This is easy for women to do and tough as hell for a man to do. Why? Because women get an idea in their head about the type of man they want (usually a random one at that) and are not open at all to anyone else, plus try to keep any attraction a big secret until Mr. Right just decides to aggressively pursue them as some random encounter (yah, that works well.....not). Usually what happens is a woman gets lonely and bored and then grabs whoever just happens to be hitting on her aggressively, as a stop-gap measure. Men, on the other hand, are open to any woman of reasonable quality that seems interested in him.What really burns my nut about the whole thing is the exception to this situation......the scumbag. Women will chase and do all sorts of freaky things for a scumbag, including competing over his sorry ass. That sort of behavior is quite natural to do for alpha males. It is decidedly unnatural and sick to do with fucked up losers.

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169) The problem here is you are assuming you are dealing with nice, normal, rational, loving people when you deal with women. Since that isn't even close to being true, making a situation come out right is much more a function of enforcing your will on them, than convincing them with logical arguments. First, cultivate power, and then use that power to force the other person to do what you want, then, choose what you want them to do wisely. Yes, men and women should both come to the table with the idea that acting in a good and loving manner will result in a relationship with almost unlimited potential and fulfillment. The problem is, I can pretty much guarantee that the woman will not be coming from this position and, instead will be looking to do as little as possible, be as little invested as possible, and be as sick as possible. In order to prevent that, you must be the one who calls the shots in all things. The words benevolent dictator comes to mind. Problem is, our society and legal system are completely dedicated to wiping out your power, even punishing you, if you dare to marry or get her pregnant. They will even cooperate with the sicker ones to bust your balls, outside that arrangement if you aren't careful.

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QUOTE: America is not a Socialist country. In fact we are the LEAST socialist country on earth. We have the lowest taxes of any developed country so I don't know where you guys keep getting this socialist crap from.

Feminist is one thing, Socialist is another

You guys are right, I really should be more careful in what I mean, but there is no specific term for it. For example, communism is a dirty word. But not because there is anything wrong with that model (even though it is a bit unrealistic). What makes communism a dirty word are the specific PEOPLE who identify themselves with communism, give lip service to that system but are involved in all sorts of crazy shit, that isn't too related to the values they supposedly hold. Socialism has a very similar thing going on in a great many countries, but hasn't yet been revealed as being quite as bad. Here in the US, although the same people are involved with the same pattern of behavior, they don't call themselves socialists. They call themselves liberals. Part of the problem is these malevolent shadow players adopt a name with a well defined set of goals and values to hide what they are doing. Their goals, values and behaviours are way out of line with what the name implies. The biggest example of this I can think of is feminism.

The specific part of the "socialist" agenda I'm talking about is the forced redistribution of wealth, by centralized violence via alimony/child support and the attempt to dilute/remove the family as the prime source of socialization and values for children and replace them with the government (conveniently replacing good values with ones the socialists need to manipulate people with that are quite frankly immoral). Also, through various means, they have set up a system where a person can be a very low quality human being and still survive, even thrive and multiply. They have removed many of the perks a person gets for being a good person. The biggest one of these is being treated with preference and respect by women. That prize now goes to men who are scum....thanks to direct manipulation and brain washing by these people.

Although centralization is a key element of what these people are about, that isn't their defining characteristic. And you are right, the US is much less socialistic (in the real sense of the word) than many other countries. The defining characteristic is the ABUSE of that centralization....turning it away from its intended purpose (usually leaving that purpose unfulfilled) to serve a fucked up purpose. They hijack our institutions and twist them to evil ends.

Although removing all elements of socialism from our society would solve the problem, it would also bring about other problems. Perhaps it would be better to say that we need to regain control of those institutions from these evil bastards and reform them. However, certain socialistic institutions are highly inappropriate and have always been abused harshly and their reason for being was mostly a lie. Child support and alimony are right at the top of the list for that.

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QUOTE: Haven't you ever seen like 200 men go after the same blonde bimbo?

Want to know a few secrets? The first is that normal looking girls get hit on WAY more than hot looking women. Why? Because men care about sex, not about challenge. We're really not interested in competing with other men over a woman. No, what we want is sex. And to most men, the normal looking girl seems more in the realm of getting some with little effort. And, quite frankly, women are something of a commodity with men. Without the depth of a relationship, one woman is pretty much as good as another. This is the very harsh price women pay for making relationships built on bullshit fantasy, exploitation and appearances rather than on depth, loyalty and commitment. Quite literally, there is no reason for a man to commit or put more than a minor amount of energy into any one woman. The second is that hot looking women are deeply, DEEPLY insecure. They KNOW that, although the packaging looks nice (something they are not at all sure of), what's inside is of dubious value. When bored or anxious, they will do almost anything to alleviate the problem. Lastly, there are major constraints over men's behavior in society. Even though the instinct is for tons of men to go after every woman at every opportunity, we rarely do. What I mean by that is you only see that behavior in certain specific situations.....for example, online dating, or at the club. The rest of the time, men are all around but none are on the hunt. Much of the time, a man who approaches women in normal, everyday situations, has the tremendous advantage that the woman he is chasing has gone an extended period of time with nobody showing interest, even (maybe especially) if she is some hot blonde. This is the harsh price women pay for not doing their part of the mating dance. However, a lot of women specifically seek out situations where men hunt them en masse, so this can skew their perception. They never notice that any man of worth stays away from those situations.

So the answer to your question is no. That only happens at the sex club or when trolling AOL. The truth is that women are much more highly motivated to get men than men are to get women. They just suck at it, on almost all levels. To put it another way, how many girls are satisfied with their love lives? Damn few.

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172) The problem isn't the body, it's the mind. Although the body is important for various reasons, including status, it's not a deal breaker. What is a deal breaker is the reason WHY her body may look like that; particularly if she has good genetics (i.e. look at her when she was younger and look at her mother and siblings). Deterioration of one's body in the face of favourable factors is a huge warning sign of a pattern of obnoxious, self-destructive behavior (if it goes so far as to manifest as drug use or an eating disorder, run, don't walk in the other direction). It's a package deal. Where you see one behavior, you see tons of others. And the person wants to extend that crap to YOUR life....and will be very tenacious in doing so. This is unacceptable.

Also, I'd like to point out that the attitude of not discriminating against a woman based on her body is brain-washing on their part. It is one of the key elements of a greater pattern where they try to convince men to accept less, and provide more. Don't fall for that. Instead, always insist on full value for everything you provide her, particularly in the same area. If you are good in bed, she needs to become good in bed. If you are smart, educated and interesting to talk to, so must she be. And if you spend 5 days a week in the gym, developing that "ripped" look, guess what she needs to be doing. Why? Well, not only do you deserve it, but, if you let her slack off, she will try to slack off in all other areas. But, most important of all......she will disrespect you for it. You have the ridiculous situation that a fat/ugly chick will consider you a loser (no matter what other qualities you possess), simply because you were willing to look past her "packaging" to see if the person inside was of value. This is that social proofing issue coming up again. Those things I do that add value to myself don't matter. What matters is the associations I have. If I'm screwing a hot chick, I must be hot. If a lot of people are listening to me, I must be interesting. But, if I screw a homely chick, there must be something wrong with me.....even to the homely chick.

Women are sick.

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173) Women have been tricked into seeking after what is not in their own best interest in a highly neurotic fashion. They've been tricked by the small fraction of women who are convinced this is actually good to do because they are psychotic. If you were to ask most women, hey, how's your love life, almost all of them would say it's horrible (well, no shit, look who you are chasing after). Later in life, after those poor decisions have been left to fester, the question changes to hey, how is your life in general......with the same answer. Women's lives SUCK because they have chosen to believe those lies. Until they seek after the truth, there is no hope for a better outcome for them. They must wake up from their trance and see that what is normal, sexy and attractive in men is that a man is strong and of high quality....physically, mentally, emotionally, financially and most of all, spiritually. Choosing a man like that, and being committed to him, is the ONLY path to a happy life for a woman.

Men cannot do that for women. Yes, we can point it out, but only they can experience the truth for themselves. Quite frankly, it is not my responsibility. If someone tells you shit tastes good, and you nod your head and agree and spoon it into your mouth, well, there is nothing I can do for you. And it will tend to piss me off if I prepare a sumptuous, nutritious 3 course feast for you in the hopes you will stop, but you spit at my feet and yell at me. When you start clutching your stomach and throwing up, why should I take care of you? For that matter, don't expect a big sloppy kiss any time soon.

But, what we can (and should) do is make sure our needs are met, protect ourselves from an inappropriate shunting of responsibility from them to us, and most of all, STOP ENABLING THEIR FOOLISHNESS. These three things are highly related. When you do one, you tend to do them all.

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174)
QUOTE: Women seem to need a lot of consensual validation from other women.

This is one of the things that really pisses me off about women. NONE of the things that make me a desirable man (money, looks, body, personality etc.) that I work on, mean a damn thing to them. In fact, many of these things are a detriment, as they chase after omega male (scumbag) traits. But, social proofing....THAT matters. I got news for them. Social proofing pretty much means I can't or simply won't give them what they want. Social proofing means one of three things. I'm not going to commit, under typical circumstances (me). I'm taken, so you have no chance with me (typical married guy). Or, worst of all, I'm taken and I'm the type of lying, cheating, scum who will do it with someone behind my wife's back (ie poor character). Social proofing has negative survival value for women. It's neurotic and unnatural.

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QUOTE: I have some questions.

1. What behaviours did they exhibit?

2. If you don't want to be soley with one woman, do the women know about each other/are they OK with this? I always wanted monogamy b/ci thought it was the hallmark of a serious relationship, not for power.

3. Does this example mean a person doesn't love you? I wasn't trying to test him, but You commute to school while dating someone. You don't have a car at the time and the person thinks you should. But you just borrow your parents' car b/c it is easier on you. One day, their car doesn't start and you call and ask your sig. other for a ride to class. THe answer is "I wanted you to get your own car, therefore I ain't taking you nowhere." Does this mean they don't care? Is this a test?

1. This is a tough one because there are so many and they are so varied. They range anywhere from simple flakiness and disrespect of my time (showing up late or not at all) to cutting me down in front of people in public. The first gets you a warning and a stern lecture. The second gets your number erased from my speed dial. There is a basic pattern of escalation. When I lived for 10 years with my fiancé (who later abandoned me in a rather fucked up way....but that's another story), the behaviours were incredibly extreme and downright bizarre. Then there is the other side of the coin....indifference. The person no longer seems excited to spend time together and doesn't put any effort into anything. Eventually they wander off and stop calling. Some women have to be dumped for the former. But, most women simply do the latter. They start hot and heavy and then fizzle out. The way I do things, this is not a big deal. But, these same women often pressure me for a monogamous relationship. I'm like, if you can't maintain interest for 6 months, what makes you think I want to be moving in with you? Also, most women will gab endlessly in narcissistic fashion about the most inane things. Rarely, have I been with a woman that bothered to find out much about me in depth. My experience is most women behave themselves and are fun to be around, if you keep them on a short leash. But, if you let them cut you off from "competition" they very quickly become lazy and presumptuous. One thing I have never met any woman who does, is start working together to build a life with her man. I'd love to meet a woman like this. But, I doubt she exists. The types of behaviours I would expect from a woman like this range from the simple, getting to know my personality in depth to the complex, starting money making ventures together to support the kids we plan to have. To be blunt, I rarely meet a woman who is sincere, down to earth and makes good decisions, let alone sending that my way. Most are completely involved in airy fairy nonsense, many to the point of being self-destructive and chasing after sensual pleasures. That's great in limited quantities. But, it's hardly something to build a life together with.

2. This may come as some surprise to you but most women are more attracted to a man who won't be monogamous with them than to one who will (and they wonder why I choose the former). If you ask a woman, hey, would you date a man who was seeing other women? Most would say, of course not. But, that's not true. My value as a man goes up, not down, if I "date around". There are a few things though. You can't lie....and you can't burst their bubble. When a woman directly asks, are you dating other people, the answer is yes. When she asks where were you Saturday night, the answer is none of your business. But, you don't leave other women's underwear hanging around your bedroom either. When a woman asks, are you single, the answer is yes (unless you are married and that's a whole other thing) Also, most women "date around". They are seeing more than one man (none tell you this, BTW) and they don't respect a man who isn't seeing more than one woman. What they want to do, though is separate you from the other women. Not a problem except, once they have you, they don't want you anymore! Every time I let a woman become "serious", she wanders off. Not right away mind you. Instead, she leads me on and suddenly, changes her mind at a later date. My point here is, the whole thing of a woman looking for a decent man to have a monogamous relationship, is just a big myth. Either they want to bag you, but have no intention of doing their part in the relationship and, quite frankly, disrespect you for being willing to be bagged....or they WANT you to be the type of man who dates around. Even the women, whose self-esteem is so low that they are rarely with a man, do this. This is the way things are. I didn't choose it (quite frankly, I don't like it). And the way things are is very different than the way they say things are.

3. That's a person who is being an asshole. The hallmark of the asshole is unreasonableness. They expect you to rearrange your life and deal with a huge imposition so that you can indulge a minor whim of theirs. Or (as in this case) they are very controlling. They want you to solve a problem you have, their way, rather than your way. If you refuse and do what any assertive, self-determined person would do (choosing your own way to deal with something) and it doesn't work, they dump a hefty amount of blame on you and even try to punish you in an aggressive or passive-aggressive fashion. The point of what they do is NOT to make things come out right (mostly what they want you to do, doesn't work anyway, lol), but that you do what THEY want. I would say that, no, the way that person is behaving, is not what you would see in someone who loves you. There are two things you see in the behavior of someone who loves you. The first is their behavior encourages you to grow and become self-sufficient. The second is they are willing to give up things that don't really matter to them, so that you can have something that really matters or is important to you. If you have an emergency, they turn off the tube, get their ass off the couch and help you. They also don't try to make you feel stupid for having the emergency. However they also don't let you make it a habit of manufacturing emergencies on a regular basis.

Someone who loves you would SUGGEST getting your own car. When you chose to do something else, they would support your right to make that decision. If it didn't work, they would help you. They neither carry you through life nor let you fall off the cliff from a single bad decision. Someone who did that to me wouldn't even get the benefit of a phone call to let them know they've been dumped.

There is one exception to that. When a person consistently makes decisions that are deviant and way outside the realm of reasonableness....you confront them about it. For example, drug use. Another example, I had an old girlfriend of mine who was whoring around behind her fiancé’s back with guys who had been in jail. I told her that was inappropriate and likely to result in ruining her life. She told me to fuck off.....so I did. I haven't spoken to her since.